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WASHINGTON -- Senate Republicans blocked legislation Wednesday that would have established a $1 billion jobs program putting veterans back to work tending to the country's federal lands and bolstering local police and fire departments.

Republicans said the spending authorized in the bill violated limits that Congress agreed to last year. Democrats fell two votes shy of the 60-vote majority needed to waive the objection, forcing the legislation back to committee.

Supporters loosely modeled their proposal after the President Franklin Delano Roosevelt's Civilian Conservation Corps used during the Great Depression to put people to work planting trees, building parks and constructing dams. They said the latest monthly jobs report, showing a nearly 11 percent unemployment rate for veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan, merited action from Congress.

Democratic lawmakers turned to the legislation shortly before they'll adjourn for the finals weeks of this year's election campaigns. The bill had little chance of passing the House this Congress, but it still allowed senators to appeal to a key voting bloc.

"(With) a need so great as unemployed veterans, this is not the time to draw a technical line on the budget," said Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida, the bill's lead sponsor, who faces a competitive re-election battle.

Republicans said the effort to help veterans was noble, but the bill was flawed nevertheless.

Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma said the federal government already has six job-training programs for veterans and there is no way to know how well they are working. He argued that making progress on the country's debt was the best way to help veterans in the long-term.

"We ought to do nothing now that makes the problem worse for our kids and grandkids," Coburn said.

Democratic officials did not have an estimate for how many veterans would be hired as a result of the legislation. Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., said much would depend upon the number of applicants. She noted that more than 720,000 veterans are unemployed across the nation, including 220,000 veterans who have served since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. She said putting veterans back to work was the cost of war.

"Instead of meeting us halfway, we have been met with resistance. Instead of saying yes to the nearly 1 million unemployed veterans, it seems some on the other side have spent the last week and a half seeking any way to say no," Murray said.

The advocacy group Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America denounced the vote.

"This bill was smart bipartisan policy that would put veterans back into service for their communities as policemen, firefighters and first responders," the group's founder and chief executive, Paul Rieckhoff, said in statement. "The result of today's vote creates tremendous doubt that this Congress will be able to pass any additional veterans legislation in 2012. Iraq and Afghanistan veterans should not have to wait until 2013 for critical support from Congress."

A handful of Republicans joined with Democrats in voting to waive the objection to the bill: Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts, Dean Heller of Nevada, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Maine's Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe. Brown and Heller are also in tough re-election contests.

Heller said he was proud to support the bill.

"After everything our veterans have done for us, the least we can do is make sure they are afforded every opportunity to thrive here at home," Heller said.

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Post to Facebook.Post to Blogger.Post to Twitter.Post to WordPress.Post to TypePad.Post to Tumblr.View AllFavoritesHighlightsRecency  | PopularityPage: 1 2 3 4 5  Next âº  Last Â»  (11 total)Spambam Thankyoumam4 Fans19 hours ago ( 4:26 PM)Republican obstructionism and hypocrisy at his worst:
Four Republican Senators co-wrote the veterans jobs bill: 
John Boozman â Arkansas
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Then they voted against it. Why? Because Obama mentioned it in his DNC speech.Permalink  | Share itHUFFPOST SUPER USERConservativebyNatureI'll cling to my guns and religion, thank you272 Fans16 hours ago ( 7:56 PM)Why? Because the Dems tried to slip something into it which would result in increasing the debt/deficit. Are you always this dishonest or do you just believe the junk that the Left side feeds you?Permalink  | Share itSpambam Thankyoumam4 Fans15 hours ago ( 9:04 PM)And what was that they tried to slip in? It was a clean bill and you are a disgrace to the veterans that fight your battles.Permalink  | Share itThere are More Comments on this Thread. Click Here To See them AllThis user has chosen to opt out of the Badges programTyketeTheres only you and me and we just disagree1231 Fans11:56 AM on 09/22/2012This is all about politics not the Republicans. The Veteransâ Jobs Bill was based on politics and not on a real solution to helping veterans get jobs. The Democratsâ use of âveteranâ in the bill indicates a focus on trying to help unemployed veterans. According to Senator Coburn, there are a total of six job programs already available to veterans. The bill focused on increasing the size of government and adding to the debt, which the Dems knew it would not be supported by the smaller government and fiscally conservative Republicans. The Democrats knew that bill would not have passed the House but decided to push ahead with it in the Senate. This was done as an opportunity to label Republicans as disinterested in helping unemployed veterans. Politics as usual.Permalink  | Share itSpambam Thankyoumam4 Fans12:52 PM on 09/22/2012You want less government, move to Somalia. This bill would have put 1 million out of work combat veterans on our streets as first responders protecting our communities where we are struggling because of the downsize of government. You pay lip service to supporting our troops while crying politics when you fail to do the right thing. You disgust me!Permalink  | Share itSansculotteI never did like Tea861 Fans01:08 PM on 09/22/2012High five Spambam. I agree with you 100%.Permalink  | Share itDavid Lucier52 Fans09:09 PM on 09/22/2012The bill was cosponsored and co written by Republicans and Dems. It was revenue neutral by mutual agreement. And 40 Republican, all but one or two ever served a day in uniform much less experience multiple combat tours. From your tone, Tykete, I doubt seriously whether you ever served either.

While these young men and women went to war, these Republicans' sons and daughters went off to the malls and to good jobs and to good universities and colleges.

Let their kids fight the next war...I've got three under my belt now...I'm done!Permalink  | Share itThere are More Comments on this Thread. Click Here To See them AllSansculotteI never did like Tea861 Fans01:11 PM on 09/22/2012What gibberish Tykete. That bill would have helped hundreds of thousands of vets who need real, concrete measures - *now*. It had 58 votes in the Senate. FIFTY-EIGHT. But, once again, the Republicans blocked majority rule (for the 108th time in four years) with a filibuster.
Beyond shameful.Permalink  | Share itThis user has chosen to opt out of the Badges programTyketeTheres only you and me and we just disagree1231 Fans07:10 AM on 09/23/2012It is hardly gibberish, the bill mirrors the other bills that are in effect and it is not paid for, there is no more money. This was all done for pure politics.Permalink  | Share itThere are More Comments on this Thread. Click Here To See them AllThere are More Comments on this Thread. Click Here To See them AllBoth Wings 2 fly52 Fans11:21 AM on 09/22/2012AS usual the repbs show they are behind the troops,WAAAAAY behind, wanting to stick it to them again, but wait could it be that they do not want those undeserving vets to have jobs?" Since it might look good for the President, they can do no good for the nation, only their little lockstep dogmatic dance.
These are the same ones, that blocked every plan ,including their own, to help the country recover, so that now they can say the president plans do not work, and we should do the same model that led us to this place in the first place.
It is time to drop the dogma on both sides, and get pragmatic to save our country and its Citizens.
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Choice= Republic vs PlutocracyPermalink  | Share itHUFFPOST SUPER USERConservativebyNatureI'll cling to my guns and religion, thank you272 Fans16 hours ago ( 8:00 PM)I seriously doubt that the Republicans in the Senate are against vets. Please spare us the drama. Talk to Harry Reid about pushing some of the two dozen+ stalled jobs bills off his desk for a vote.

RLTW!Permalink  | Share itBoth Wings 2 fly52 Fans12 hours ago (12:17 AM)No drama, just facts. BrotherLook at how many filibusters the Senate did to stop recovery and how many proposals were blocked by the Congress.Remember what old Mitch said from day one, about making the President a one termer.  Does that not speak volumes, about the strategy? Sua SpontePermalink  | Share itThere are More Comments on this Thread. Click Here To See them AllMetalinc1 Fans06:30 AM on 09/22/2012Last moment. Even the VFW has concerns about this bill. Why you ask? Read the last line,the current funding for veteran benefits looks to be 10 billion short. As I said previously the Feds can't manage anything and throwing more money at new programs that already exist is foolish to me.
http://veteransforcommonsense.org/2012/09/19/vets-jobs-bill-mired-in-hill-squabble/Permalink  | Share itSansculotteI never did like Tea861 Fans01:14 PM on 09/22/2012This bill had 58 votes in favor - including Republicans. When you continually block bills by using the filibuster - you are denying the American people majority rule. You are gaming the system. "Patriots" - hah! Absolutely shameful.Permalink  | Share itHUFFPOST SUPER USERConservativebyNatureI'll cling to my guns and religion, thank you272 Fans16 hours ago ( 8:01 PM)Please a bad bill that's supported by 100% of congress is still a bad bill.Permalink  | Share itThere are More Comments on this Thread. Click Here To See them AllVolantiad237 Fans23 hours ago (12:59 PM)The problem with that, Metalinc, is that private industry can't make a profit on treating TBI, providing prosthetic limbs or worker retraining that doesn't specifically help a certain company make a profit. Basically, leaving the care of vets to profit motivated private industry is throwing vets to the wolves. We need the federal government to take care of this. However, I do agree that the VA is mismanaged and should probably receive some oversight from people who actually do know how to run businesses for profit. I don't think the VA should be run for profit, but I bet they could learn a lot on how to save the money the do have from people who make a living doing that.Permalink  | Share itMetalinc1 Fans06:18 AM on 09/22/2012Also this was passed a year ago bipartisan where are we at on this?http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/senate-panel-passes-bill-on-job-training-for-military/2011/06/30/AGzYwdsH_story.html

Do we really need more laws on the books or do we need an investigation/audit to determine where all the money is going? One thing for sure it's not ending up with our warriors back at home!Permalink  | Share itVolantiad237 Fans23 hours ago ( 1:13 PM)Well, this a day late and a $ short, isn't it? There are ALREADY 720,000 unemployed vets right now. Had they come up with this plan in 2002 then we might not be in the situation we're in now. 

Additionally, what is described by Sen. Murray already happens while we're in TAP/TAMPS: learning how to use O*Net to find the civilian job cross-over to our military job. We already did have to participate in TAP, so what's the effect of this? 

"The bill would modify federal hiring practices to encourage the hiring of departing service members and would allow service members to begin the federal employment hiring process before their separation from the military."

When I was hired for my current federal job in 2008 I received a 5 point veteran's preference in hiring then. I was also told in 2007 when I did TAP/TAMPS that I was eligible to start the hiring process with the feds before I actually EASed. So, what's new?

I have to agree that this particular law is pretty bogus. However, I do like what the Veterans Job Corps Act has to offer: another program for jobs & helps the Park Service diminish their debt/undertake $11bn in deferred maintenance to public lands which they are obligated to do. I'm with you, though ~ at least in a way ~ that there needs to be much better oversight into how these funds are managed and accounted for.Permalink  | Share itMetalinc1 Fans06:03 AM on 09/22/2012I agree it is pretty shady considering all the cash given to our enemies. I do think Title 38 covers everything. It just needs to be properly managed and funded. Which we all know the Federal Government cannot do no matter the party in office! I am a Marine that has been inactive for 12 years but am ready to go at a moments notice. Let the veterans returning manage Title 38 and we will take care of our brothers. Both sides need to stop using us as a political pawns. All we want or have ever wanted is a fair shot!

http://www.dol.gov/vets/usc/vpl/usc38.htmPermalink  | Share itTiffanyKJ39 Fans 02:36 PM on 09/21/2012Last March, the Cons voted to keep paying 4 billion annually in government subsidies to the big, wealthy oil companies. NOW they votes against a lousy one billion dollar jobs bill to help our vets in the name of "fiscal austerity"? Where was your so called " fiscal austerity when it came to helping oil companies"? 
One billion for vets is too costly, but 40 billion over ten years to big oil is OK? Big oil does not need the money, they're making record profits. They have been making obscene profits since 2007 and they have paid no taxes.Permalink  | Share itspyceecj3 Fans05:50 PM on 09/22/2012Thanks Tiffany well said I'm tired of the government, being so hypocritical, big oil companies do not need the money or the tax breaks. We the people do.Permalink  | Share itVolantiad237 Fans22 hours ago ( 1:24 PM)Thanks for nailing it, TiffanyKJ! The hypocrisy is nauseating. It kills me to see what you describe when my brother & sister vets just need a hand getting back in the saddle. The Veterans Job Corps Act would not just put vets to work, it'd help the National Park Service clear a backlog of $11bn in deferred maintenance. They're obligated to get that done so why not kill 2 birds with one stone? I'm the first to agree that the VA needs better oversight and management ~ which I believe will see our tax $'s reach their intended goal of helping vets ~ but it's inconceivable that we should throw the baby out with the bath water (i.e. diminish needed funding to the VA) because of it. I've been reading comments here that suggest that. We need to quit paying billions of dollars for oil companies that are already making mind-blowing profits (that I'm not sure we, the consumer, are seeing at the pump, either) and pass some of that along to our vets.Permalink  | Share itHUFFPOST SUPER USERjsalspachlove people, use things, never the reverse228 Fans01:40 PM on 09/21/2012And yet the rubes will continue to vote Republican because they wear their flag pins and pay lip service to the vets. You can count on more of the same if Money Boo Boo and Lyin' Ryan get elected because vets are part of the 47%.Permalink  | Share itVolantiad237 Fans22 hours ago ( 1:29 PM)I know, Jsalspach. What do service members think Tricare is? Magically appearing money for their dependent health care? Do they think it doesn't come from tax $'s? This is federal aid, straight up. Basically, all service members with civilian dependents are part of Romneys reviled 47%. BTW, during my 5 years active duty, I didn't pay federal taxes once. I made money on my taxes, especially on the year I went to Iraq. How service members can bring themselves to support Republicans like Romney ~ just because, as you say, he pays lip service to vets and talks a lot about socially conservative opinions he'd like to make into laws ~ is jaw-droppingly astounding. He absolutely would not serve the interests of vets if elected.Permalink  | Share itCece199263 Fans01:07 PM on 09/21/2012I am so stunned and saddened by the way our veterans have been treated as political footballs. They are human beings who agreed to serve, who agreed to risk their lives, whose families miss them every day when they are deployed and worry that they will never return. The Republicans needed to follow the lead of their colleagues Senators Snowe, Murkowski, Heller, Brown, and Collins and AT LEAST work to compromise to pass this bill.

Feel free to call me biased. I am the daughter of a war vet, have two stepbrothers who are also war vets, and have another brother and three nephews currently serving (two of these are in Afghanistan), and that doesn't count my former students who are serving as well. My family is lucky in that none of the vets among us are unemployed. I can't express how much I wish so much could be said for all of our veterans.Permalink  | Share itkemahcw175 Fans 11:18 AM on 09/21/2012Now the congress votes down a bill that would help our VETS in the job arena! Being a VET means that you and your family have paid the ultimate sacrifice to our country and this is the way the GOPers treat you! How sad and vicious. I say the GOPers are traitors! They are unAmerican! They are not worthy to lead! They are Benedict Arnold! They are worse than commies and Nazis! Now the GOP blocks the Veterans Jobs Bill!! God bless every VETERAN, I pray He heals and soothes your soul, spirit and bodies. And know that some of us are proud of you, we thank you and we pray for you.Permalink  | Share itThis user has chosen to opt out of the Badges programSchoolgirl666693 Fans07:31 AM on 09/21/2012Doesn't sound like the republicants are doing the job in washington that they were sent to do. It's time for them to seek different work....Is it just talk that they always say "it's for the troops"? If the federal government doesn't help our vets find jobs, the VFW members should step up, if they haven't already, and offer our unemployed vets jobs. Your efforts will be greatly appreciated by already thankful citizens. Thank you all for your service to our country!!!Permalink  | Share itHUFFPOST SUPER USERdewhDriving Miss Crazy1075 Fans 01:09 PM on 09/21/2012No kidding! And I have a great idea how to pay for the Veterans Bill...we can't take it out of the salaries of a very obstructionist Congress who has not earned their pay in a very very very long time.Permalink  | Share itspyceecj3 Fans05:55 PM on 09/22/2012Kick them all out .com. Great site, very insightful. They do not currently represent the majority of Americans. Sad I think they need a reawakening and fast. Kick them all out America.Permalink  | Share itThere are More Comments on this Thread. Click Here To See them AllHUFFPOST SUPER USERmike711lThe universe is laughing at you behind your back5544 Fans 01:55 AM on 09/21/2012If this isn't the moment that the GOP loses enough seats to become irrelevant in American politics than Americans truly do not care about our soldiers.Permalink  | Share itHUFFPOST SUPER USERmike711lThe universe is laughing at you behind your back5544 Fans 01:42 AM on 09/21/2012I hope someone asks Mitt what he thinks of the Republicans obstruction of the bill. His answer should be interesting, will he go along with the party and look as bad as they do, or go against them and try to look like he cares about veterans.Permalink  | Share itHUFFPOST SUPER USERjsalspachlove people, use things, never the reverse228 Fans01:38 PM on 09/21/2012He'll just come up with some vague reply that he will take care of the veterans. He can't give an opinion because he doesn't have one (his puppeteers haven't given him one yet).Permalink  | Share itHUFFPOST SUPER USERmike711lThe universe is laughing at you behind your back5544 Fans 02:53 PM on 09/21/2012Whatever he says (if anyone even brings it up) it will probably another foot in mouth moment. I hope he bought those candy flavored shoes cause he's gonna need em!Permalink  | Share itKingsleyHeath231 Fans01:18 AM on 09/21/2012The congressional republicans will pay dearly for all their mistakes in less than 7 weeks.Permalink  | Share itKingsleyHeath231 Fans01:17 AM on 09/21/2012What else is new? The republicans can blow $800 billion to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, but not a penny for the troops towards resettling when return home. I wish someone would fire all these 'no good for nothing' congressional GOPs.Permalink  | Share itCece199263 Fans01:09 PM on 09/21/2012Hear, hear! And let's take their over-inflated salaries and use them to do all we can for returning war heroes!Permalink  | Share itHUFFPOST SUPER USERdewhDriving Miss Crazy1075 Fans 01:10 PM on 09/21/2012They certainly haven't earned their pay or their fancy benefits!Permalink  | Share it Page: 1 2 3 4 5  Next âº  Last Â»  (11 total)FOLLOW USMOST POPULAR ON HUFFPOST1 of 2D'anciens messages privés publiés sur les profils Facebook 
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